Legislature(2015 - 2016)BUTROVICH 205

02/25/2016 03:30 PM Senate EDUCATION

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03:31:59 PM Start
03:32:31 PM SB103
04:13:24 PM Adjourn
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                       February 25, 2016                                                                                        
                           3:31 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Mike Dunleavy, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Charlie Huggins, Vice Chair                                                                                             
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                           
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
Senator Berta Gardner                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SPONSOR SUBSTITUTE FOR SENATE BILL NO. 103                                                                                      
"An  Act  relating to  school  boards;  relating to  approval  of                                                               
educational   programs  at   residential  psychiatric   treatment                                                               
centers;  providing  for  funding  of  educational  services  for                                                               
students  in  residential   psychiatric  treatment  centers;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 103                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: RESIDENTIAL PSYCHIATRIC EDUCATION FUNDING                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) GIESSEL                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
04/10/15       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/10/15       (S)       EDC, JUD                                                                                               
02/17/16       (S)       SPONSOR SUBSTITUTE INTRODUCED-REFERRALS                                                                
02/17/16       (S)       EDC, JUD                                                                                               
02/25/16       (S)       EDC AT 3:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL, Alaska State Legislature                                                                                       
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: As sponsor, presented SB 103.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
KARI NORE, Staff                                                                                                                
Senator Giessel                                                                                                                 
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented information on SB 103.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
EVELYN ALSUP, Educational Director                                                                                              
North Star Behavioral Health                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented information on SB 103.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL LYONS, Vice President for Specialty Education                                                                           
Universal Health  Services of Delaware and  North Star Behavioral                                                               
Health System                                                                                                                   
Melbourne, Florida                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented information on SB 103.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CAELA NIELSEN, Parent                                                                                                           
North Star student                                                                                                              
Eagle River, Alaska                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 103.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  MIKE  HANLEY,  Department of  Education  and  Early                                                               
Development (DEED)                                                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions regarding SB 103.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:31:59 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MIKE   DUNLEAVY  called  the  Senate   Education  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:31  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were   Senators  Huggins,  Giessel,  Gardner,   and  Chair                                                               
Dunleavy.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        SB 103-RESIDENTIAL PSYCHIATRIC EDUCATION FUNDING                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:32:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  DUNLEAVY   announced  the   consideration  of   a  sponsor                                                               
substitute for SB 103. He noted there was a zero fiscal note.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:32:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GIESSEL, Alaska State  Legislature, as sponsor, presented                                                               
SB 103. She shared a story  about a ride-along with the Anchorage                                                               
Police  Department and  a call  regarding a  young man  in foster                                                               
care  who  was  having  a  meltdown  and  was  transported  to  a                                                               
residential treatment  center. She pointed  out that had  he been                                                               
required  to stay  in a  long-term treatment  facility, he  would                                                               
have  missed  school. She  said  some  school districts  are  not                                                               
adequately  meeting the  educational needs  of such  students and                                                               
the bill aims to fill that gap.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:34:08 PM                                                                                                                    
KARI NORE, Staff, Senator Giessel, Alaska State Legislature,                                                                    
presented information on SB 103. She said Senate Bill 103                                                                       
addresses a gap in the current way we provide education services                                                                
to children admitted to residential psychiatric treatment                                                                       
centers (RPTC's). She related that currently the RPTC's are                                                                     
finding that local school districts sometimes fail to provide                                                                   
adequate education services to children suffering from serious                                                                  
mental illness who have been confined by a doctor or court order                                                                
to an RPTC for treatment that can last between 30 days to one                                                                   
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
She stated that version I of SB 103 amends AS 14.032.083, which                                                                 
deals with contracting for services, to authorize a three-year                                                                  
pilot project for school districts to contract with the RPTC's                                                                  
in order to provide educational services to patients confined to                                                                
RPTC's. The bill calls for the RPTC to submit a proposed                                                                        
contract to the local school district, which meets 21 rigorous                                                                  
educational standards and accountability measures - found in AS                                                                 
14.30.800. In addition, the contract must include a proposed                                                                    
reimbursement rate to the RPTC. The local school board must then                                                                
issue a decision within 30 days, including findings of fact and                                                                 
conclusions of law. The RPTC can appeal an adverse decision to                                                                  
the commissioner of the Department of Education (DOE). The State                                                                
Board of Education must provide an appeals process similar to                                                                   
that of a charter school. She said that this approach                                                                           
streamlines and simplifies the process from the earlier version                                                                 
of SB 103.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. NORE explained that there are a total of 12 RPTC's statewide                                                                
that could choose to educate their approximately 200 student                                                                    
patients. She expected only a few of the larger facilities to                                                                   
participate in this option. The pilot project will sunset in                                                                    
three years and will provide data to DOE for future use.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DUNLEAVY noted the committee has a quorum.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:37:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GARDNER  referred  to  written  testimony  from  Timothy                                                               
Cline,  the  Alaska  AdvanceED Director,  who  talked  about  the                                                               
impact  he has  seen  in 36  years of  education  in Alaska  when                                                               
students  in  residential  treatment   centers  return  to  their                                                               
neighborhood schools having had a  good educational plan in place                                                               
when they  were absent. She  asked if the bill  includes elements                                                               
of working with neighborhood schools.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. NORE explained  that the RPTC's would work  with local school                                                               
districts  and the  Center  for Education  Services  in order  to                                                               
ensure that the curriculum is matching up with the home schools.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DUNLEAVY asked for a definition of home school.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARDNER clarified  that it  is the  school in  which the                                                               
student was previously enrolled.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
She asked  if there was a  provision in the bill  for a temporary                                                               
education program in order to  communicate with a teacher or with                                                               
the school a child returns to upon release.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:39:16 PM                                                                                                                    
EVELYN  ALSUP,   Educational  Director,  North   Star  Behavioral                                                               
Health, presented information on SB 103.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARDNER related  that Mr.  Cline's letter  describes the                                                               
difference between  a student who  does or  does not have  a good                                                               
school  program during  residential treatment.  She restated  her                                                               
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ALSUP  replied  that  there are  provisions  in  the  school                                                               
contract for  on-going communication  between the school  and the                                                               
treatment facility.  The contract would begin  upon admission and                                                               
would continue throughout the student's residency and discharge.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DUNLEAVY suggested using "neighborhood school."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. NORE pointed out that  the contract requirements are found on                                                               
page 4, line 10, of the bill.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:41:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGGINS spoke  of the Mat-Su Centers that  have a process                                                               
for on-site education.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. ALSUP said there are problems with that process.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS asked if the Mat-Su model is exportable.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. ALSUP  said they have  taken a look  at the process  and have                                                               
tried to improve upon it.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS asked if RPTC's process is the answer.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ALSUP believed  that melding  education  with mental  health                                                               
treatment  would increase  the  educational  opportunity for  the                                                               
child.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:42:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  DUNLEAVY inquired  if there  were situations  where mental                                                               
health  issues would  exceed the  structure  of the  neighborhood                                                               
school  and mental  health treatment  would take  precedence over                                                               
that  education.  He concluded  that  the  goal is  to  integrate                                                               
education and mental health treatment.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. ALSUP said that is correct.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:43:45 PM                                                                                                                    
MICHAEL LYONS, Vice President  for Specialty Education, Universal                                                               
Health  Services of  Delaware and  North  Star Behavioral  Health                                                               
System, presented information  on SB 103. He  thanked the sponsor                                                               
and  her  staff for  their  hard  work  on this  legislation.  He                                                               
described the services  provided by his programs and  the need to                                                               
provide  a   free  and  appropriate  public   education  to  RPTC                                                               
students,  comparable to  students  in regular  schools. He  said                                                               
RPTC is  more effective at  providing those programs  than public                                                               
schools.  He said  there  were many  problems  with the  services                                                               
provided  to   residential  students  by  the   Anchorage  School                                                               
District. He  described the  process used to  find a  solution to                                                               
those problems in forming a  House Education Subcommittee to work                                                               
with the district and North Star.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He stated that SB 103 will  allow RPTC's to enter into a contract                                                               
with  local  school  districts  to  provide  equitable  education                                                               
service  with  measurable  outcomes.  He  said  his  organization                                                               
operates  over 200  behavioral health  facilities throughout  the                                                               
nation.    Their   program    has   a    comprehensive   academic                                                               
accountability system  that includes a set  of national standards                                                               
for  educational  services  in  residential  settings,  a  school                                                               
improvement planning  process, and an outcome  management system.                                                               
He  concluded  that  they  have  shared  their  system  with  the                                                               
Anchorage School District and DOE.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:48:58 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGGINS  asked about  student  count  and how  money  is                                                               
allocated. He suggested vouchers as a solution.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. LYONS  said under their  model all children would  be counted                                                               
in  the  Anchorage  School  District.  SB  103  simply  allows  a                                                               
contract between North Star and the district.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:50:29 PM                                                                                                                    
CAELA NIELSEN,  Parent, North Star student,  testified in support                                                               
of SB  103. She described her  background as an educator  and her                                                               
son's  disorders  and  the  services  provided  for  him  by  the                                                               
Anchorage School  District. She  recalled his suspension  when he                                                               
was 13  and the process they  followed in his IEP  in the regular                                                               
school district. He was in  various treatment programs, including                                                               
North Star  and Palmer, which put  him behind in school  where he                                                               
ended up  in a manic  state and  tried to overdose.  She recalled                                                               
his history in and out of  treatment centers. She listed what she                                                               
needed  for her  son and  what she  hoped to  receive for  him at                                                               
treatment  centers.  She  strongly  encouraged  support  for  the                                                               
educational project found in SB 103.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:59:27 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNLEAVY asked if Ms. Nielsen is a public school teacher.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. NIELSON said yes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DUNLEAVY opened public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER referred to Ms.  Nielsen's testimony and asked if                                                               
RPTC's would have contracts with all schools.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:01:24 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. ALSUP replied  that the bill will allow  contracts to various                                                               
districts,  if  needed. There  would  be  communication with  all                                                               
schools and each child would have a case manager.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARDNER asked  how  educational  records would  transfer                                                               
between the school and the RPTC.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ALSUP said  the records  would be  in RPTC's  possession and                                                               
they would be responsible to gather them.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER  asked if  schools would  have access  to records                                                               
upon a child's discharge.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. ALSUP clarified that the  receiving school would be given all                                                               
academic records and be involved in the discharge process.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:03:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNLEAVY  noted the presence  of Senator Stevens.  He asked                                                               
Ms. Alsup if she is a teacher.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. ALSUP said she has worked  in the district as an educator for                                                               
26 years.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:04:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. ALSUP  shared how stressful  it is to  a family when  a child                                                               
needs  inpatient mental  health treatment  and the  importance of                                                               
equitable access to school curriculum  during this time. She said                                                               
a   student's  education   should  not   be  compromised   during                                                               
treatment;  education  plays  an  essential  part  in  successful                                                               
treatment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
She  shared an  example of  a student  in treatment  who was  not                                                               
taking  classes that  counted  toward  graduation. The  Anchorage                                                               
School  District made  a conscious  effort to  correct situations                                                               
like  this after  the  last legislative  session,  but there  are                                                               
still areas  of deficiency.  She addressed  how North  Star would                                                               
address  the deficiencies  and improve  educational opportunities                                                               
for students in treatment.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:07:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GARDNER asked  whether the  appeals process  mirrors the                                                               
language of charter schools.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ALSUP said they align closely.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER said she has drawn  a blank from her local school                                                               
district  when trying  to find  out  their perspective  regarding                                                               
this issue.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:08:24 PM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  MIKE  HANLEY,  Department of  Education  and  Early                                                               
Development (DEED), answered questions regarding SB 103.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS asked  if the  appeals process  is an  "end run"                                                               
around districts.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HANLEY said it does not  feel like it is an end run,                                                               
but an  opportunity to pursue what  the RPTC feels is  the proper                                                               
treatment for  students, much  like strengthening  charter school                                                               
laws  in HB  278.  There was  language in  HB  278 that  required                                                               
districts to make  their decisions based on findings  of fact and                                                               
conclusions of  law, and the same  language is in SB  103. In the                                                               
funding  language in  the bill,  the school  board needs  to find                                                               
that the funding  requested is reasonable. What  is appealable is                                                               
relatively narrow.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:10:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GARDNER asked  if there  is  anything in  the bill  that                                                               
gives concern.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HANLEY  said not from the  state's perspective. Even                                                               
though  the  bill provides  that  the  district "shall"  enter  a                                                               
contract, the  rest of the  bill speak  to the components  of the                                                               
contract. He  said he has  spoken extensively with  the Anchorage                                                               
School District about the bill.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:11:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DUNLEAVY kept public testimony open.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:11:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GIESSEL provided  closing  comments, saying  as a  nurse                                                               
practitioner, she  is very  aware that some  of her  clients very                                                               
often have behavioral  health issues. There is  a huge deficiency                                                               
in the  state in  addressing behavioral  health issues  and there                                                               
are  barriers  that  are   preventing  qualified  clinicians  and                                                               
educators from serving these children.  She concluded that SB 103                                                               
is an  opportunity to  begin to  meet the  significant behavioral                                                               
health problems in Alaska.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:12:59 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GARDNER  appreciated  the sponsor's  bringing  the  bill                                                               
forward and for Ms. Alsup's help in addressing concerns.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DUNLEAVY set SB 103 aside.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:13:24 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Dunleavy  adjourned the Senate Education  Committee at 4:13                                                               
p.m.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
1. SB 103 Sponsor Statement.pdf SEDC 2/25/2016 3:30:00 PM
SB 103
2. SB 103 Sectional Analysis.pdf SEDC 2/25/2016 3:30:00 PM
SB 103
3. SB 103 Sponsor Statement.pdf SEDC 2/25/2016 3:30:00 PM
SB 103
5. SB 103 Fiscal Note.pdf SEDC 2/25/2016 3:30:00 PM
SB 103
6. ASD Testimony on SB 103.pdf SEDC 2/25/2016 3:30:00 PM
SB 103